{"id":10664,"date":"2015-08-20T07:09:48","date_gmt":"2015-08-20T14:09:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/?p=10664"},"modified":"2015-08-20T07:32:34","modified_gmt":"2015-08-20T14:32:34","slug":"some-thoughts-after-book-passage-2015","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/2015\/08\/20\/some-thoughts-after-book-passage-2015\/","title":{"rendered":"Some Thoughts After Book Passage 2015"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_10669\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10669\" style=\"width: 947px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/Capture.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-10669 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/Capture.jpg\" alt=\"Capture\" width=\"957\" height=\"631\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/Capture.jpg 957w, https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/08\/Capture-300x198.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 957px) 100vw, 957px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-10669\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mark, Stephanie, Andy, Juliane, Anna, and Lisa (via my <a href=\"https:\/\/instagram.com\/nerdseyeview\/\">Instagram <\/a>feed)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h3>1. Things Happen at Writing Conferences<\/h3>\n<p>In the middle of my second day at the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bookpassage.com\/travel-writers-photographers-conference\" target=\"_blank\">Book<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bookpassage.com\/travel-writers-photographers-conference\" target=\"_blank\">Passage Travel Writers and Photographers Conference<\/a>, I went to get coffee. I shared the counter with a Bay Area literary agent. &#8220;What are you doing here?&#8221; the agent asked, and then he saw my faculty tag. &#8220;Oh, you&#8217;re teaching. What are you teaching?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I told him about the class I was co-teaching and asked about his time at the conference. &#8220;Are you taking pitches?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Why, do you have one?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I do, but that&#8217;s not why I asked, I just wondered if people are taking the time to pitch you.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not getting much,&#8221; the agent said. &#8220;And you know what&#8230; The industry is tough. Memoir is awfully hard to sell. Everyone thinks they&#8217;re on the hero&#8217;s journey. Take some advice from me? Don&#8217;t be on the hero&#8217;s journey.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I shrugged. &#8220;I&#8217;m not that special,&#8221; I said, &#8220;plus, the thing I&#8217;m working on is only partly about me.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Do you want to sell it? If you want to sell it, there&#8217;s no reason for you to keep working on it. How far along are you? If you&#8217;re far enough along and it&#8217;s good, I can get you an advance to finish it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve got 25,000 words.&#8221; I told him about my project. &#8220;I&#8217;ve been working on it on and off for about three years, in 5000 word chunks.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re that far along? Send me your proposal. And I tell you what, don&#8217;t tell me there are no comps, that just means there&#8217;s no market for it and I&#8217;ll tell you no. Get me your proposal, I&#8217;ll get you a seven figure deal.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I laughed and shook his hand. &#8220;Seven figures. I AM IN.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Seriously,&#8221; he said, and he handed me his business card. &#8220;Send me your proposal. The kind of thing you&#8217;re working on, typically it&#8217;s a 10,000 dollar advance. Maybe I can get you 13. Send it,&#8221; he said. &#8220;Really. I&#8217;d like to see it, it sounds good.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Later in the day I told this story to another writer &#8212; one who has several published books &#8212; and she said, &#8220;Don&#8217;t blow this off. That is how good things happen, in this kind of low key way. Don&#8217;t let this sit, promise me you won&#8217;t let it sit.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It is good to be in a place where these kinds of conversations can happen.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\u00a7<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: left;\">2. Do. Not. Write. For. Free.<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">On the first night at dinner, I sat with a delightful woman who was very excited to share about the writing work she was doing. I didn&#8217;t have to ask the question, another attendee asked for me: Are you getting paid?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">&#8220;No, she said, &#8220;but&#8230;&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I pounced. &#8220;We may not see each other again this weekend because you&#8217;re not in my class. But you are going to look up &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/shouldiworkforfree.com\/\">Should I Work For Free<\/a>&#8216; and you are going to learn to love it. You are going to print it out and put it next to your desk where you write.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Many web businesses and publishers who prey on the aspirations and naivete of writers by &#8220;offering them the opportunity to get exposure for their work.&#8221; I have been that writer. But once I learned how the web works, I stopped writing for free and for very low pay.\u00a0 I won&#8217;t put guest posts on heavily monetized blogs. I won&#8217;t read the Huffington Post, and there are a bunch of other places that are persona non grata in my reading list for not paying their writers or for paying them very poorly while they live on Park Avenue.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">If the publisher is making money, you should be getting paid too. Period.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">Don&#8217;t listen to me, listen to Mavis. Respect yourself.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/oab4ZCfTbOI\" width=\"853\" height=\"480\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\u00a7<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: left;\">3. How to Find a Writer&#8217;s Group: Build Your Own<\/h3>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">More than once over the course of the weekend I was asked about writing groups. I didn&#8217;t have one until recently. I went to the Bay Area to read at Weekday Wanderlust, a monthly reading series run by some great writers there and I came back mad. Why didn&#8217;t I have my own writers scene in Seattle? This city is filthy with writers, why aren&#8217;t I hanging out with them?<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I used to do a bunch of stuff with bloggers, but since the schism in online writing due to its popularity with marketers, I stopped making an effort to attend events. There may have been marketers at Weekday Wanderlust, I don&#8217;t know. That&#8217;s the key, right? I didn&#8217;t know if there were marketers there, whereas at the events in Seattle, I was surrounded by those blogging for SEO, to make money, to establish a brand; I had to sift to find people who were writers, first and foremost. That was making me really tired.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">After that trip to San Francisco, I put together a writers group of my own. (You should read all these women, they&#8217;re sharp, funny, prolific, kind, and understand the value of excellent snacks. My kind of people: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thegastrognome.com\/\">The Gastrognome<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/thehamazon.com\/\">The Hamazon<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.everywhereist.com\/\">The Everywhereist<\/a>.)\u00a0 I put together a writers group not because I wanted to workshop my writing (that&#8217;s what editors are for) or because I wanted to have my ego boosted (that&#8217;s what friends are for, plus, I&#8217;m already a little megalomaniacal) or because I needed snacks (I really do like snacks). I gathered the tribe because I wanted to sit down with a handful of wicked smart people who were <em>already<\/em> great writers to talk about the challenges of writing: selling work, dealing with self-promotion, maintaining momentum, both the tactical and the fuzzier parts of being a working writer. And if I wanted to workshop something, I knew that these people wouldn&#8217;t sugar coat their feedback because it&#8217;s not at all what they&#8217;d want in return.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">I rarely feel qualified to give advice on anything, certainly not to people I don&#8217;t know well. But knowing what you want from a writers group will help you know when you&#8217;re in the right one &#8212; and when you&#8217;re not. And hell, if you&#8217;re lucky enough to already know some hard-working kickass writers you respect, you should make peanut butter cookie waffles and invite them over.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">\u00a7<\/p>\n<h3 style=\"text-align: left;\">4. Lightning Round<\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li>Aspiring writers are hungry for tactical information and for the truth. It&#8217;s so tempting to bathe everything in golden light, but I&#8217;m still thinking about the young woman who threw up her hands and cheered when I said, &#8220;Can I hold it down for boring work?&#8221; That was awesome.<\/li>\n<li>Karaoke is just not my thing, sorry. I was up until 1am also, but I was out on the patio talking with new friends.<\/li>\n<li>The industry is tiny and you need to know people to make things happen. There are just not that many travel editors anymore, so don&#8217;t let yours down.<\/li>\n<li>Instagram is five years old. Twitter is nearly ten years old. Facebook is 11. Blogger is 16, it&#8217;s probably out back smoking. I think social media is mainstream by now, but I&#8217;m wrong about that, this stuff is still really new to a whole lot of people.<\/li>\n<li>People still <em>really<\/em> want to be travel writers. I guess I do too, still.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>1. 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