{"id":10720,"date":"2015-09-14T09:34:06","date_gmt":"2015-09-14T16:34:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/?p=10720"},"modified":"2017-04-08T18:59:57","modified_gmt":"2017-04-09T01:59:57","slug":"guest-post-when-asked-for-photos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/2015\/09\/14\/guest-post-when-asked-for-photos\/","title":{"rendered":"Guest Post: When Asked for Photos"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-10721 size-large\" title=\"Vintage French circus poster. Dancing bears, roller skating bears, bike riding bears. Scan of 2 d image in the public domain believed to be free to use without restriction in the US.\" src=\"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Art-Poster-Advertisement-Circus-Akrobaten-Baren-1024x741.jpg\" alt=\"Vintage French circus poster. Dancing bears, roller skating bears, bike riding bears. Scan of 2 d image in the public domain believed to be free to use without restriction in the US.\" width=\"1024\" height=\"741\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Art-Poster-Advertisement-Circus-Akrobaten-Baren-1024x741.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Art-Poster-Advertisement-Circus-Akrobaten-Baren-300x217.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Art-Poster-Advertisement-Circus-Akrobaten-Baren.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><em><a href=\"http:\/\/photos.peterwestcarey.com\/\">Photographer Peter Carey <\/a>noodles on the question of writers who are asked to &#8220;throw in&#8221; photos as an afterthought to their commissions.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>\u201cI know we offered to pay you for your hard work, now how about you give us something extra for free because we\u2019re cheap?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>No editor will ever state it in such plain English, but that\u2019s what requests for photos from writers come down to in my mind. As the publishing world contracts, more and more freelance writers (and even some staff writers) are being asked to pull double duty as a photographer. After all, you were there researching the piece, so you have relevant photos, right?<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s at that moment that Dennis Hopper\u2019s line from Speed runs through my head, \u201cWhat do you do? WHAT DO YOU DO?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>My suggestions:<\/p>\n<h3>Respond With Thanks<\/h3>\n<p>I\u2019m not a confrontational person and that\u2019s the reason for my first rule; be kind. Respond with kindness when asked for more because it means they liked your work in the first place. If they hated it, they wouldn\u2019t ask for more.<\/p>\n<p>It also sets a positive tone rather than a confrontational one, even if that is what you are feeling inside.<\/p>\n<h3>Educate, Again<\/h3>\n<p>Chances are you have had to educate editors, or those requesting your work, about the value of your written work. The same goes for your photography. Even if you don\u2019t consider yourself a photographer (hint: if you take pictures, you\u2019re a photographer), those images have value. You don\u2019t have to be a full-time professional photographer to get paid for your photos.<\/p>\n<h3>Come Up With A Price<\/h3>\n<p>Pricing your work might leave you in a wonderland. You know how much to charge per word, but what happens when a photo is worth 1000 words? Or more?<\/p>\n<p>I use Getty\u2019s online tool for quotes. Getty is a leading stock photo agency and they have built a fine calculator to help place a ballpark figure on your work (they actually built it to give Getty clients a price for licensing Getty images). You can find it <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gettyimages.com\/pricecalculator\/sb10069475ab-001\">here<\/a>. It\u2019s fairly robust and will help you get started.<\/p>\n<p>From there I take a look at my client and try to guess how much they would be willing to offer based on my number from Getty. Remember, the first price will be a start of negotiations, so start with a price you can work with.<\/p>\n<h3>Think About The Relationship<\/h3>\n<p>When pricing your photos, it\u2019s important to think about your relationship with this client. Sometimes it pays to do something for free when you know it means future, paid work. This has worked well for me in the past when others were telling me to grab as much cash as I could and run. I decided to build a relationship with the client and it has borne (cash)fruit over many years. It may be worth your while to give a steep discount, or even work pro bono in this case.<\/p>\n<p>On the other side of that coin, you might set yourself up for never getting paid in the future. Giving away too much, too soon, can lead to an expectation on your next assignment where they don\u2019t ask if you have any photos after the fact, but tell you they need photos when offering the assignment. While not offering a premium for said photos. At which time negotiations are a little more difficult.<\/p>\n<p>This is a gray, murky area you need to navigate with your wits. It\u2019s like me explaining to you how to date. I can offer some general advice now and then, but you need to take a path that feels right for you.<\/p>\n<h3>Exposure<\/h3>\n<p>Perhaps you\u2019ve read Pam\u2019s thoughts on the exposure topic before (especially this <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/2011\/03\/18\/315-million-dollars\/\">post<\/a> and the link to an awesome flowchart at the bottom). If not, read it and the flowchart.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve done a few gigs for exposure when the time involved was slight and my CV enjoyed the boost. Or as a foot in the door when I knew I would not be asked for more free work in the future. But by and large, I avoid the exposure lure because it\u2019s never as bountiful as advertised.<\/p>\n<p>Again, this <a href=\"http:\/\/shouldiworkforfree.com\">flowchart<\/a>? It\u2019s awesome.<\/p>\n<h3>You Are Licensing, Not Selling<\/h3>\n<p>An important note about photos and use; you\u2019re selling a license to use your photos, not selling them outright. Please don\u2019t sell them outright as you may want to use the photo again. You will want to provide your client with a license that spells out how and where they can use the photos, separate from any contract you have for the words (or in addition to, but it should be spelled out clearly in any contract). This is an important step that should not be handled with just a \u2018hand shake\u2019 agreement.<\/p>\n<p>For a primer on licensing the American Society for Media Photographers has an <a href=\"http:\/\/asmp.org\/tutorials\/licensing-guide.html\">excellent post<\/a> covering what you need to know.<\/p>\n<h3>Tell Them To Credit Your Photos<\/h3>\n<p>Unless you are ghostwriting, you expect your name will appear with your work in some fashion. Don\u2019t expect the same for your photos. Tell your client you wish credit where it is due. This can be stated in the licensing contract mentioned above simply as, \u201cAll images should be properly credited &lt;your name here&gt;\u201d.<\/p>\n<h3>In The Future, Think Ahead<\/h3>\n<p>If you notice more and more of these requests coming your way, especially when writing travel pieces, it can be a lucrative opportunity. And if you\u2019re writing for income, you should monetize your photos as often as possible.<\/p>\n<p>Now consider who you\u2019re competing against; just all the Creative Commons (Commercial Use Allowed) images on the Internet.<\/p>\n<p>With that team batting against you, there are two things you can do to tilt the field in your favor and get paid for your photos.<\/p>\n<p>First, create unique photos about the location or photos that tie in especially well to your subject. Maybe you include quotes from someone in your piece or you actually did find a hidden gem. Snap quality photos that only <em>you<\/em> can provide your client. Unique is the key. If you\u2019re writing a broad piece about the museums of Paris, it\u2019s easy for your client to find Creative Commons images. So write toward your photos and photograph toward your words. You were there, after all!<\/p>\n<p>Second, make it easy for them. Editors and other folks looking for your words don\u2019t enjoy their job being made more difficult by being sent 25 unedited images through which they need to troll. Select your best images and be ruthless. Make sure they have captions so your client doesn\u2019t need to ask how they fit into the written narrative. Edit them but not too much, so the client can put their own look onto the images. If they need more images, they\u2019ll ask. It\u2019s better to send a small sample than too many.<\/p>\n<p>This post is over 1000 words (one picture) long because there is no simple answer to the question: What do I do when someone asks for photos in addition to my words? My hope is you now have more tools and knowledge in order to approach the answer depending on your values. If you have a specific question, I\u2019m freely available to give my own brand of opinion at peter@peterwestcarey.com.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cI know we offered to pay you for your hard work, now how about you give us something extra for free because we\u2019re cheap?\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":74,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[706,13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10720","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-29-guests","category-working","masonry-post","generate-columns","tablet-grid-50","mobile-grid-100","grid-parent","grid-50"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10720","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/74"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10720"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10720\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":11903,"href":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10720\/revisions\/11903"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10720"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10720"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.nerdseyeview.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10720"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}